For driving fun and enjoyment the manual gearbox wins. What you learn driving the bmw m3 and m4 at a great race track. Bmws allnew m3 sedan is dynamically nearly identical to its twodoor m4 coupe sibling. The truth about dual clutch transmission cars duration. However, a couple of hours in the dct e92 and there was no way i was ever buying manual one. The manual however is much less complex and will be less likely to have issues down the line. Jan 15, 2018 stick shift is the way to go if you are looking for fun.
But same stripped out e92 m3 will do better on the track dct than the manual, only my opinion. The dct and auto boxes are faster and they have better fuel consumption, he told autocar. Im sure it would have been more even also, the v8 has some more. Add it all up and bmw says the m3 and m4 sprint to 60 mph in 3. Read our first driving impressions from the race track on the new 2015 bmw m3 and 2015 bmw m4. Ive had my 335i for over 18 months now, which is the longest ive had a car, so ive started to. We were beginning to think bmw was going to delay the release of the manual or possibly pull. Now bmws only m3, the sedan does a fine job of shouldering the mantle. Download e92 m3 manual or dct e92 m3 manual or pdf the bmw m3 is a highperformance version of the 3 series, developed by bmws inhouse motorsport.
The dct and auto boxes are faster and they have better fuel consumption. Youre just too limited with this electronic rubbish, so stick with the triedandtrue 6speed. While dad finds it hard to go back to the 2010 without irs or power steering hes having some trouble with the dct. The dct car is a tenth of a second slower than the regular sixspeed manual. In just under a year, we logged 25,830 miles on our austin yellow 2015 bmw m3. According to the epa, the m3 with a manual transmission should a clunky dualclutch transmission, alfa romeo giulia quadrifoglio vs. You have to accelerate just like with a normal manual gearbox by gently touching the gas pedal. Come with us as we go for a spin in the 2015 bmw m3 and m4 and see if bmw made the right decision ditching their v8s in favor of a turbo six.
If youre saying an exact equal manual vs dct car and the dct went 58mph faster in only 20 ft, then let it be your belief. Declining sales of the manual gearbox on the m3m4 could be the final. Bmw m4, videos august th, 2015 by horatiu boeriu 0. Comparing stock 2015 bmw f80 m3 and f82 m4 wheel output to the 2015 w205 c63 amg s m177 vs. Dual clutch vs manual transmission dct vs mt bmw m3. Not as quick as the automatic at the drag strip, the 2015 bmw m4 with a. Huge thanks to streetxtreme for providing this m3 for todays video. I miss the satisfaction of using a sporting manual and think the household combo of manual boxster and dct m3 sounds great. You have to remember that it is a manual transmission and it is meant to be drive in manual mode. A naturally aspirated, front mounted, high reving v8, spinning the rear tires and pushing over 410 bhp is not something you will be able to buy in th. To try and answer that question, we approached the 2015 bmw m3 m4 with selective amnesia. I had my e9x m in manual but my f8x m is dct and i love it so direct and instant personal preference but id not go over to manual again on a high performance car m3sdl, jan 1, 2019. Jul 16, 2016 bmw claims theres only a couple of tenths in it, 4.
Find out more in this first test by the automotive experts at motor trend. Shop 2015 bmw m3 vehicles for sale in new york city, ny at cars. Jun 25, 2014 come with us as we go for a spin in the 2015 bmw m3 and m4 and see if bmw made the right decision ditching their v8s in favor of a turbo six. Jun, 2014 until now, manual transmission versions of the 2015 bmw m3 and m4 have eluded our collective left foot. Bmw dual clutch transmission fluid dct 1 liter ffl 4. I dont know about the m3 gearbox, if its the same zf 8 speed unit as in the rest of the 3 range, but if its anything like the one on the. The 2015 bmw m5 special 30th jahre anniversary edition that sold at. Nick murray takes his bmw m4 with a dual clutch transmission and compares it against another m4 this time with a manual gearbox.
Aug, 2015 bmw m4 manual and dct transmissions compared. May 08, 2014 bmw is perfectly comfortable putting the new m3 sedan and m4 coupe up against their ancestors. This manual box comes from the old 1 m and weighs 26. In fact before i had tried one, i was writing comments on the dct vs manual debates just like you have above. As with the m3 we tested with the manual, the threepedal setup is the best. You can always find an exception, but on the whole its pretty clearcut.
We put aside our loves, gripes, and hopes of previousgeneration m3s and simply assessed how the 2015. Prepare for electronic warfare between the 2016 aprilia rsv4rf and the 2015 yamaha yzfr1m. If youre trying to get an under powered car up a hill or for merging into traffic, the cvt wins. Its amazing on track and in the busy roads of london.
Thats down from 40 percent of the previous generations m3 coupe buyers, according to reports. After my last m3 which was a manual which i did enjoy, i dont think i would ever get another manual now that i have a dct. Jan 10, 2020 settled for the regular e46 m3 in the end. The dct equipped crf africa twin is quite at home off the asphalt and is a good case sample to look at of how the system performs there. Im sure all things being equal the dct would still edge the manual despite the slight weight increase. It wasnt as enjoyable as an m3 with the dual clutch. From trackday heroism to the daily commute, the m4 represents an ideal allaround twodoor coupe or.
As to the gearbox modes, there are three each for automatic and manual operation, and they dictate how quickly and firmly the ratios are. A manual transmission isnt always the right option jalopnik. The 2015 bmw m3 and m4 with dct has a rating of 17 mpg for city driving and 26 mpg highway. Sure, dct is much faster in shifting, but try using dct when you have to quickly reverse, or rock your car out of a snowy spot if youre as crazy as i am i would use an m3 in the snow if i had one. I drive mine in manual mode about 95% of the time that i use it. Bmw m4 manual and dct transmissions compared autoevolution. Well, the aerodynamics would play a role too in higher speeds, but 100% sure a dct powered m3 would definetly do better than that. I miss the satisfaction of using a sporting manual and think the household combo of manual boxster and dct m3. Research, compare and save listings, or contact sellers directly from 3 2015 m3 models in new york city. The v8 is perfectly mated to the dct, whereas the manual just feels far too agricultural, clunky, and the gearing is just plain wrong. Not only can you get more performance but you can also address the weak points in the m variable limited slip diff.
The same models with manual transmission are reportedly doing 24 mpg in highway driving. Download dct vs manualand pdf, but you cant go wrong using the send to kindle feature. This reallife need for speed e46 bmw m3 is awesome. Towards the end of my time with our m3 i drove another with a manual gearbox. Chaps i might be dreaming a bit but ive started looking at e90 m3 s over the last couple of weeks. Bmw built the new small m cars with both a manual and a dct. The 2015 bmw m4 is really an m3 coupe with a different name, a sleeker body and fewer doors. Part 1 of 3 watch as i drive a dual clutch m3 for the first time. I drove the dct and wasnt that impressed with itdont see what the fuss is all. We are test driving the 2015 bmw m3 and 2015 bmw m4. Thats an impressive amount of miles under my watch, since i live only 3 miles from the office, but i had a lot of help. I just sold my 2011 m3 that had the mdct that i had no issues with which was a very different experience than my 08 m3 with a manual which required a replacement transmission.
Transmission choices are a sevenspeed dualclutch automatic or a sixspeed manual. The manual m2 is slower and likely less efficiency in daily driving. Ive since had a further 3 dct v8 m3s since, as i was enlightened by the flexibility, fun and technical excellence of the box. Over the past 29 years, the m3 s cylinder counts and transmission choices and even body styles have changed.
All im saying is try one someday, despite reservations, you might be surprised. Until now, manualtransmission versions of the 2015 bmw m3 and m4 have eluded our collective left foot. Its quite shocking how it drives in comparison to my manual m3 part 2 will be. We also provide inexpensive and guaranteed 3 day, 2 day, and overnight shipping options, so if you need your dual clutch transmission fluid dct 1. They chose my brothers over the ymb one specifically because it was manual not dct. The v8 is perfectly mated to the dct, whereas the manual just feels. I just sold my 2011 m3 that had the m dct that i had no issues with which was a very different experience than my 08 m3 with a manual which required a replacement transmission. Super fast autobahn acceleration test with the all new 2014 2015 bmw m3 sedan limousine powered by an awesome 3. Hopefully when i saved a little bit more ill be in a f80 very soon and that wll be the dct box aswell.
Its a very unpopular opinion among car enthusiasts, that a dct could be better than a manual in a sports car. The manual is an iteration on the m3 and m4s which itself was an iteration of the one found in the 1m. As understood, completion does not suggest that you have fantastic points. The dct has slightly shorter ratios being a 7 speed vs 6 in the manual. Ultimately, in the battle of the dct vs manual gearboxes, for outright performance, the dct gearbox is the undisputed winner. Its all present, correct and as you expect apart from the arrival in the engine bay of a pair of turbos. Its just not as fun as many enthusiasts would claim. Output for the 2015 bmw m3 and m4 is 425 hp with 406 lbft of torque. Boostaddict comparing stock 2015 bmw f80 m3 and f82 m4. A naturally aspirated, front mounted, high reving v8, spinning the rear tires and pushing over 410 bhp is not something you will be able to buy in the future.
Johnny campbell is an 11 time baja champion and in this video compares riding over really rocky terrain with a dct vs manual transmission. This time we take the manual m3 for a spin, but how will it stack up against the super fast shifts from the dual clutch. Admittedly, it is fun to drive the bmw m3 with a manual gearbox. Bmw has been unafraid to tailor its m3 to the times. In the majority of situations, the dct will be faster. You can view their inventory, including the listing to this m3, at. Tms2596 e9x m3 dct differential upgrade custom options. Between the two of us we currently have 3 rubicons. Jan, 2019 the supercharged e92 m3 manual trans wolrd record is highlighted at the bottom 530hp i think and then bolton dct m3 runs listed actually, seems to be a bit more than 50hp if you look at it. In the manual you have to plan ahead, revmatch, and downshift to get the best power, whereas in the dct youll just stomp on it and get the downshift automatically. I get to drive it to charge the battery wink wink, but no, its a convertible so not gonna be the quickest and got all the options so carrying a bit of timber. This is just one of the solutions for you to be successful. Seventeen months with the latest incarnation of the vaunted m3. E9x m3 dct differential upgrade custom options a custom differential is one of the best upgrades to have done to your e90 or e92 m3.
While he tries to sort things out with the dealership i thought id try the forums. My m3 has dct and i have come from cars having mt and i couldnt be happier. The dct car is a tenth of a second slower than the regular sixspeed manual version to 30 mph, even to 40 mph, and then its all over. After driving the fifthgeneration 2015 bmw m3 we asked ourselves this. The m2s manual is an iteration on the m3 and m4 s which itself was an iteration of the one found in the 1m.
The 2015 bmw m3 and m4 have a new, turbocharged inline six thats more powerful and torquey than the highrevving v8 of the previous m3. I was allowed to buy my wife a dct, her 3rd and currant car, would i have liked manual. Jan, 2019 i wont link it because i dont care enough, but there is an article out there with a dct m3 and manual m3 and they went almost identical times. The dct gearbox is superb, it always seems to be in the right. In this new video from joe achilles, we take a look at a comparison between a manual and a dctequipped bmw m2 competition. Manual take rates on bmw m cars are down, down, down. We were beginning to think bmw was going to delay the release of the manual or possibly pull the plug altogether. What you learn driving the bmw m3 and m4 at a great. If this was the very first m3 ever released, would it be legend.
The m2s manual is an iteration on the m3 and m4s which itself was an iteration of the one found in the 1m. Nick murray takes his bmw m4 with a dual clutch transmission and compares. All bmw m3 sedan f80 versions offered for the year 2015 with complete specs, performance and technical data in the catalogue of cars photo of the moment. A manual transmission isnt always the right option. After all, some other brands have taken their respective performance models automatic only. See, the cars are evolving, downsizing motors in favor of. I went m dct because i have not been very happy with bmws recent manual transmission offerings though i do understand the f8xs are a lot better in this regard.
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